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Fitting a NP205 D-Vorced on a short bed truck??

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#1 ·
Hello, i'm new here and i'm hopping to get some help..
Right now i have a 79 dodge power wagon step side with a 727 and a 203. I have 3 other parts trucks to keep me going. On one of the trucks, i have a 727 with a d-vorced 205, Thats what i'm wanting to swap into my step side. But the donor truck is a club cab long bed. I started taking some messurements and ran into some things. For one if i do the swap, my fuel tank will be in the way. so i need to run maybe a fuel cell in bed, no big deal. For two, the transfer is going to be in about the middle of the truck. There for my rear d-shaft will be about 3ft long and the front about 3ft 5in. Will this be ok? Has anyone ever done thins kind of swap?? BTW i'm going to be running about 8in of susp lift, so with short shafts, it will be ever a worse angle. Any help would be GREAT!! Thanks Chris
 
#2 ·
No one's done this before???  Does anyone understand what i'm trying to do?? Come on fellows, I need some advise!!-Chris
 
#3 ·
im in the middle of that very swap myself. i will say this. dodge did it from the factory up till 75' so its very doable. my plans include the shortest intermediate shaft i can come up with (the member "RXT" has some pics of his setup on his website with a very short shaft) that moves the case forward and buys a couple inches. also 1410 series u-joints and yokes can operate at much greater angles than the puny, whimpy stock dodge stuff. 1410 yokes are easy to get for the 205, and a dana 60 or 70 if thats what your running, but i dont know about the 9.25" or the 8.375". also check out "mad max's" build thread as he is running a divorced 205 in an RC.
 
#4 ·
  You can use an h-yoke for the intermediate,  that'll be the shortest you would get
 
#5 ·
Whats an H-yoke?? Sorry guys i'm a newbi!! ;D..

My biggest thing is, Do i want to do the d-vorced. or should i try and find a married?? What are the pro's and cons

I want to do the d-vorced b/c i got so many parts laying around to do it. I have three, 727's, two 205's, np435, and all the other stuff to go with it. If i go to a married 205, i've got to junk all i got, and start from scratch!! What to do?????-Chris
 
#6 ·
  A H yoke is a yoke just like what your CV uses to conect the 2 joints,  that would be the shortest set-up you could get for 1410....but it is not cheap,  but you don't need 1410
 
#7 ·
I just check out RXT pic's. So he used a 1410 yokes on everything?? Man, that can add up, can't. What do they usally run??
 
#8 ·
  IM saying the shortest connection would be the h yoke,  but you don't need 1410 between the trans and case,  then again you don't need 1410 anywhere else.
 
#9 ·
Yes, my RC uses 1410 yokes and joints throughout the drivetrain, except the CV at the rear of the t-case, which is a Rzappa joint or ball and groove joint similar to what you'd find in a front wheel drive car. Toyota calls these Birfields However this one is much larger and completely experimental.

With 10 inches of lift, and a very short rear driveshaft, I had to use a variety of techniques to reduce the angle. I had to drop the tranny & t-case, slightly angle the t-case, and turn up the rear axle 15 degrees. The resulting angle is 15 inches at the CV, which is well within the operating range of most CV joints.

The pro and con of a divorced t-case is that a divorced t-case creates a longer drivetrain. To use it, you need to use a 2wd tranny with a fixed yoke tailshaft which already adds 8 inches to the length of the rear drivetrain, plus the length of the middle shaft (Mine is 6 inches long from yoke to yoke and includes a 3 inch slip joint) 

A married t-case will eliminate the nessary length of a middle shaft and the need to run a 2wd tranny, complete with a tailshaft.

On the pro side, the greater length reduces the front drivetrain angle, and in my case, I didn't need to turn the axle or cut and turn the knuckles. I didn't even need to grind my yokes (1410s have less max operating angle than 1350 series joints)

Theres also one other advantage to a divorced t-case worth mentioning. While Dodge offers the married t-case with all popular transmissions, what if you want to install a tranny not typically used on a 4wd? In my case I may eventually replace my 727 with a six speed Spicer manual tranny. This transmission does not have a married version, so the only way to use it in a 4wd application is to go with a divorced t-case.

Ed