[Duval67]

Whoooo hooo! Parts in. Raining like crazy today. Hope to install Saturday. I'm not so sure about these bolts though. Those hex heads I wud think are prone to stripping if ya not careful

I wouldn't worry about stripping those at all.
You won't be using anywhere near enough to torque to have to worry about that.

 

[brucecmc]

Man, this gasket I received is pretty stiff. Is it supposed to be ?

 

[Mad Max]

yup - those three long screws are all that hold it in place - I like to use small washers to 'capture a bit more around the holes when I bolt mine up to the valve body (or extension).

 

[brucecmc]

I didn't realize Alize how thick that gasket is. Between that and depth of the pan, I'm hoping I don't have an issue with distance between bottom of pan and exhaust. Crap. I measured 3 3/4" figur d that was enuf clearance. I think the pan is 3 3/8. Oh boy. Saturday can't get here soon enough. Let the cussing begin !!!

 

[Mad Max]

Let the cussing begin !!!

naaahhhhh - that's just 'normal' for these kind of schenanigans - it all works out for the better

 

[Elwenil]

Plan on making a mess, dropping the pan on a transmission is never a "neat" task.  In the past I have popped the neutral safety switch out since it will drain most of the ATF out in a controlled stream that you can put a bucket under pretty easily.  That will keep the flood of ATF coming out when you unbolt the pan to a minimum.  Another tip is to loosen the bolts on the pan and take about half of them out, leaving one half of the pan with loose bolts and the other half with no bolts so you can pry the cover down and hopefully the majority of the fluid will dump out the lower side.

 

[brucecmc]

Well got it drained. Not a big mess. BUT here what's in the pan (see pic)

Oh crap!

 

[brucecmc]

Well got it drained. Not a big mess. BUT here what's in the pan (see pic)

Oh crap!

Well, it is 32 years old

 

[dodge82273]

be sure to check the oil level with the trans in neutral , engine running . 

 

[brucecmc]

Yes, yes.  I was commenting on the grime/metal in that pan. Got that deep
Pan. See pic. A little difference. ;-)

 

[Duval67]

Wow, that's much deeper!

My stock pan seems to be deeper than that....although mine also has a drain plug, so maybe it isn't the stock pan at all.

 

[Mad Max]

Well got it drained. Not a big mess. BUT here what's in the pan (see pic)

Oh crap!

meh - that looks pretty 'normal' to me - I wouldn't be too concerned

 

[brucecmc]

I don't have a gasket scraper. Is this ok to use. Don't wanna have to run to store. Pulled the pan off, took filter out. Inspecting the mount point. Looks like some residual gasket is in it. But the gasket I took off was rubber. Wonder if the fella that out the rubber gasket on didn't clean off the trans.

 

[brucecmc]

I'm screwed.  The new pan is too deep to slide between the trans and the crossover for exhaust.  Didn't realize the guts of the trans pushed foen about 1/4" on the inside of the pan. That's what's keeping me from sliding into place.  Soooo. Now I either try to pins out the old or wait 3 days to get a new OEM pan. I'll hang onto the deeper pan for when I change out exhaust. I'll replace it then. Ughghgh. My projects keep stacking up.

 

[Elwenil]

Is the exhaust physically occupying the space needed for the pan or is is just in the way of putting the pan in place?  If you need to, you can always drop the exhaust to put the pan on.

Also, as long as the stock pan is in ok condition, meaning it's not crushed or rusted out, you can easily flatten out the flange and use it with the new gasket just fine until you can change the exhaust.



Or swap to a manual transmission and forget all this nonsense. 

 

[brucecmc]

Is the exhaust physically occupying the space needed for the pan or is is just in the way of putting the pan in place? If you need to, you can always drop the exhaust to put the pan on.

Also, as long as the stock pan is in ok condition, meaning it's not crushed or rusted out, you can easily flatten out the flange and use it with the new gasket just fine until you can change the exhaust.

Or swap to a manual transmission and forget all this nonsense.

Lol. Manual trans. Now ur just being funny. I'm having a hard enough time changing the pan.
I'm gonna order the smaller pan. Yea, the cross over is solidly in place. I'd have to disconnect the entire exhaust system at the manifolds (or cut). Neither of which I'm ready to move on as yet. I can wait a couple
Days. BUT, a word to those doing this the first time, make sure ya have the clearance. The guts of the trans hangs down further than the lip of the pan where it connects to the trans. I didn't know that and thought I had clearance - DOH!!! Alright. Stay tuned for the continuing saga. What happened to my original thread of "transmission pan screws" Lol

 

[brucecmc]

I didn't have another question about cleaning the trans while the pan is off. Is there something I could use to spray clean it?  Spray around to get rid of any potential dirt or metal??

 

[Elwenil]

I wouldn't.  Anything internally would drain down to the pan naturally and anything else in the transmission should probably be left alone.  Dislodging debris inside could do more harm than just leaving it where it is.

So you think the pan would fit if you could get it mounted up?  You might try unbolting the rear mounts and jacking the transmission up a bit, depending on how much clearance you need.

 

[brucecmc]

I wouldn't. Anything internally would drain down to the pan naturally and anything else in the transmission should probably be left alone. Dislodging debris inside could do more harm than just leaving it where it is.

So you think the pan would fit if you could get it mounted up? You might try unbolting the rear mounts and jacking the transmission up a bit, depending on how much clearance you need.

Sorry. I didn't respond to your other part. Yes. It's definitely the right pan and will install
Once I have the room. I have always intended to put a dual exhaust system on this so once I'm at that stage I'll simply sling the deep pan On There at that point.

What I have in the mean time is a fancy chrome plated a727 pan to install. I shud do that tomorrow. I did have a question about that. I'm thinking that I need to be extra careful with this fancy pan when I install it. Wondering if it's even more susceptible to getting buggered up than even the OEM pan

 

[dodge82273]

the tin's about the same , use the new style gasket .