i was going to post this on pirate but I don't need a bunch of flaming lol. so here is my question what exactly does cross over steering do and how does it work. I read that it eliminates the steering gear box?? is this true if so that would be good mine is shot. whats the round about cost if it does in fact eliminate the gear box and replace tie rods and things of that nature then it would be worth it... my truck is a 1987 w150 360/727/208 with 7ish inches of lift on 37 inch iroks. any help would be great thanks!
ckkmgreen
It does not eliminate the steering box, it just moves it on a dodge. What you do eliminate is the parallel to spring push pull which equals a safer more stable drive.
thanks for the links guys i meant eliminate the 4x4 box and needing to buy a 4x2Â box or are they the same either way i have to buy one mine leaks like its been stabbed.
Steering boxes are the same. You move it from the 4 wheel drive location to the 2 wheel drive location. Then you shorten the steering shaft.ckkmgreen said:
You also need to machine your passenger side steering knuckle. Much easier to do on a Dana 60F axle.
Crossover steering is essentially the best way to help keep the steering geometry in check on a lifted vehicle. It uses the factory gearbox (2x or 4x), and replaces the drivers-side drag link with a longer version that 'crosses over' to the passenger's side, and connects to a specially made passenger-side-mounted steering knuckle top plate.Â
By crossing over, the extended drag link is intended (does, actually) to reduce the arch angle when the suspension articulates, thereby reducing the amount of 'bump-steer' on a lifted vehicle (more than 4 inches). On a vehicle lifted less than 4 inches as the angle difference is so small it would not be noticable. My 93 RC is lifted about 2 inches and is has the factory setup, albiet it does have an adjustable drag link, but it has zero bump-steer.
- Sam
By crossing over, the extended drag link is intended (does, actually) to reduce the arch angle when the suspension articulates, thereby reducing the amount of 'bump-steer' on a lifted vehicle (more than 4 inches). On a vehicle lifted less than 4 inches as the angle difference is so small it would not be noticable. My 93 RC is lifted about 2 inches and is has the factory setup, albiet it does have an adjustable drag link, but it has zero bump-steer.
- Sam
all things being equal and in good operating order, there is no advantage with rack and pinion except for slight weight savings.
it's not a stability issue it's a geometry issue.
the same thing can occur on cars with rack and pinion steering setups if you modify the suspension.
the same thing can occur on cars with rack and pinion steering setups if you modify the suspension.
Eric is right, it has nothing to do with the steering box, it is the distance getting shorter or longer between the pitman arm and the axle as the suspension compresses and extends.
Look at it this way...the steering box is at a fixed point (the frame) and the axle moves seperate from the frame. As the suspension compresses, the drag link makes an arc motion. As it does this, the distance between the pitman arm (on the steering box) and steering arm (on the knuckle) changes on a vertical plane. So whenever you hit a bump, that change in distance pulls on the steering arm making your truck momentarily steer to one side.
Look at it this way...the steering box is at a fixed point (the frame) and the axle moves seperate from the frame. As the suspension compresses, the drag link makes an arc motion. As it does this, the distance between the pitman arm (on the steering box) and steering arm (on the knuckle) changes on a vertical plane. So whenever you hit a bump, that change in distance pulls on the steering arm making your truck momentarily steer to one side.
ok now someone brought up axles thats another ? i am stock axles locked right now....i have a 14 bolt with a detroit waiting to be put in when ever i find a 60 front will cross over be different from a 44 to a 60? it maybe years before i swap axles i haven't broke these yet so im in no hurry to swap in..... still chasing everything that leaks and some other small issue thanks guys
king pin D60's are easy to crossover because the knuckle tops are already machined/drilled for bolts. There are several high steer arms available out there.
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