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72-93 control arm interchangeably?

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5.6K views 27 replies 9 participants last post by  Dougy13k  
#1 ·
Hey y'all,

Tried searching around to no avail, so here goes.

Recently I've been hammering out more work on my old girl a bit more than usual (84 d100). This past few days I got the gumption to finally change out pretty much my full front end. (Steering, suspension, joints and bushings, and brakes w/ calipers.)

Everything was going as smoothly as a near 40 year old truck with original everything would let you... and then I found the wall lol.

Not only is my upper a-arm pitting and flaking away along the edge, but I cannot for the life of me get the upper ball joint to come loose. So before continuing, I decided to take another look and see if I could find a replacement should things go horribly sideways.

Came across stock replacements for the D250/D350 with bushings and ball joints installed from FFS. Knowing they're rated for heavier axles, would I be able to use these for my D100? I assumed you could always go up, never down. And they look damn near identical.

Specifically the stock a-arms. Not their custom made arms.


Any input on this would be amazing. Thank you.
 
#2 ·
Those use a bigger ball joint then yours does. Off the top of my head, even if you used the bigger ball joint, it will not fit your steering arm.
 
owns 1990 Dodge W200
#5 ·
Trucks are the same, screw into the A-arm. Some 3/4 ton trucks, and all 1 ton trucks and vans take a larger one. The small one is the same as many of the rear wheel drive cars used.
 
owns 1990 Dodge W200
#7 ·
this list of mine is incomplete (Updating soon) but should have the bulk of what your looking for on it. I just rebuilt mine. Just like you said said Get a Impact gun, I got the dewalt with 1400lb of break a way torque on the special socket. since the upper is threaded in. Then zip it off. you may have to recut the threads with the new ball joint like I had to. be sure not to force it & use Tap magic. Make it so much easier.

Link with the parts list "See latest Post for most uptodate": D - Series Platform : RWD Ramcharger 2 Inch Suspension...
 
#8 ·
To the best of my recollection, the upper control arms are the same. Either size balljoint fits; it's the balljoint taper (shank) that is fatter on the 4000#.

Also, I had a compromised arm (rusted thin and cracked). I welded in a piece of rebar to beef it up.
 
#9 ·
So with that said, I'd be able to simply remove the larger tapered joint from the a-arms and reinstall the new joints I currently have in my possession? They have the same thread size and pitch?

And I didn't even think about the idea of using some rebar. But I do have some spare round stock in the shed that I could weld in now that I think about it.
 
#11 ·
Well, after getting these fuckers glowing red I finally got them out. Only problem is now I definitely need a new control arm... passengerside that had the brunt of the rust had a bit more than originally thought...

Don't suppose anyone knows a better way to repair this? Figured pipe and weld, but is it even possible to find the right thread pitch for these?

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#16 ·
owns 1990 Dodge W200
#20 ·
The two sockets I have are marked 1&59/64", and 2&9/64" I always assumed the one was for the smaller BJ's, and the other was for the HD 1 ton 3800 & 4000 lb axles. But I must admit I have never done Bj's on any 2wd, except for the 4000 lb axles.

Then what is different on the 3800 & 4000 lb upper control arms. of not the BJ thread?
 
owns 1990 Dodge W200
#21 ·
Then what is different on the 3800 & 4000 lb upper control arms. of not the BJ thread?
Nothing as far as I can tell.

The lower control arm on 3800/4000# has a larger balljoint hole.
 
#22 ·
Correct, They are the same. Interesting that vans have different ones for the highest ratings. But trucks are the same. The OP should be able to use the ones linked.

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owns 1990 Dodge W200
#23 ·
@SuperBurban I took the dive and ordered those control arms anyway. Was reading around and seems like the only difference was the shank for the BJ itself. Figured what the hell and try to see if it works out if I just swap the BJ for the ones I have.

Worst case, I send them back for a refund. Best case, plenty if other guys have a stock option to look at.
 
#25 ·
Figured I'd put this out there for those interested,

I would highly advise against buying from FFS for factory style components. Unfortunately I learned yet another lesson about buying in a panic rather than doing research.

FFS orders the factory components from WSD suspension. And adds a wonderfully high mark up on top of it. Not only that, but they have the proper uppers and lowers for the 100s/150s.

Long story short, better price + faster shipping + proper spec parts.
 
#27 ·
Most of you guys know I run my 2wd hard on the auto x course and I have used WSD's upper arms now since I started auto x. They were quick to ship and priced right with no markups. FFS has some nice deals on some things that they make and I have used them in the past. But anything they source and then sell is usually nearly double the price. I would not hesitate to buy through WSD any day of the week.

Neil