Welded 60

haha thats crazy.. ive allways heard about it but never seen it b4.. so by doing that it becomes a full time locker? will that have a chance of failing? breaking loose? ive thought about doin that my self to my dana 44

I can gaurentee that this one won't break loose. My buddy had a rear 44 welded on his jeep, and the welds were shitty, and when he pulled it, you could see all the welds had cracked.

I have been pretty hard on it so far, and nothing has broke. I have all the confidence in the world in this.

The welds look great. How many passes did you make? The only thing i would be worried about is the gears getting to hot and making the mettal to brittle. Let us know how it turns out!

I had a buddy of mine in our club do it. he has done a lot of these, so he knows what he is doing.

You have to weld, then let it cool, then weld then let it cool. You are waiting for it to cool more than you are welding just so it won't get to hot and make it brittle.

Ive even seen some people take plate and put it in ther to get even more contact. They all end up eventually breaking too, but some lasted years before letting go.

LEast you guys did it right by the looks of it man . Letting it cool is deifnitely what will pay off in longevity . I would not have any problem welding a rear like u did . Like uu8said done irght and by somebody weho knows what the thehll they are doing it can be quite effective and damn near dirt cheap minus that case of beer you bought lol .

BrianT

ok cool thnx for posting those pics thats something I have been wondering about. So thats a realy good job on welding then. Thats what they call a lincon locker correct? What are the pro's and con.s of doing this vrs buying a locker. I know cost but what else.

Scott

saw960 said:

ok cool thnx for posting those pics thats something I have been wondering about. So thats a realy good job on welding then. Thats what they call a lincon locker correct? What are the pro's and con.s of doing this vrs buying a locker. I know cost but what else.

Scott

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That has been talked about many many times in the tech board, as well as vehicle help board I believe.

ok I'll look into it. I'm just kinda looking into it before I get to making my trail only rig.

I am going to weld up my diffs pretty soon, we have a meet coming up on Dec 13 that will be my testing grounds.

I am still leary about welding the front cause I won't be able to turn then, but if it works for you Sam, then I may do it.

I was too at first, everyone say it won't steer. But hearing from the people who have actually done it, they say it isn't as bad as it is made out to be. I will soon find out, I will be welding mine up this weekend

I have also heard abouty not directly welding the gears solid, but instead welding a piece of steel or something a tooth or two away from the other gears. That wasy there is some "room" for turning and such. Think that would have more of an effect on the rear than the front however.

Well I welded the front and ran some trails and rocks. The RC did super, almost unstopable with both front and rear welded. I blew out a lockout hub (had a spare) and bent a wheel (had a fullsize spare). It is a little harder to turn the wheel, but giving it gas makes it easier to turn. All in all not bad at all, I didn't have the "plow" effect that people talk about with a welded front.

I didn't drive through alot of mud or any sand, so that would be the real test for the plow method. I did learn though it is super hard to turn the wheel on pavement if the hubs are locked and only in 2wd. Without power to the wheels it makes it real hard to turn on pavement. I am glad I welded my front.

I've got one in the front of my jeep that I welded up 13yrs ago. Not one problem.
Mine is different in that I did not weld the gears together, I just filled in the teeth. That way if it breaks I can still take everything out without having to cut it out. Just a different way of doing it.
Looks great, you wont regret it.

This is one of the best looking welded diffs I have seen.What type of rod did you use?

I have had my front 44 welded for about 2-3 yrs now, and not a problem 1, except for the axle shaft becoming the weak link, the diff is holding up great, but im doing a gear swap and am changing front carriers to the 4 series, it got welded too, from my experience, ya dont really need that much rod in them, but yours looks good, I have heard of guys saying "i put 5 to 10 pounds of rod into the diff, Its not nessessary, all that needs to happen is to keep the spiders from turning,on my second one i cut wedges out of 1/4 flat steel and jammed them in the spiders before welding them solid, it helps to get a better contact with the welds

mad dog said:

This is one of the best looking welded diffs I have seen.What type of rod did you use?

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it was done with mig. My buddy did it for me.