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got this in an IM

Eric,

By chance Rudezuk and I have found out that we both received email offers to buy our vehicles for sale that we believe to be a scam. Since mine is only advertised on TDR and RCC, and his is only advertised on Pirate and RCC it seems that the scammer may have seen our adds here. I’m sure that there is little that can be done to him directly, but it might be nice to post a sticky in the classifieds section warning to beware of this probable scammer.

Here are some links fyi:

My for sale add.

http://ramchargercentral.com/boards/index.php?topic=70225.0

Rudezuk’s for sale add

http://ramchargercentral.com/boards/index.php?topic=69804.0

Where we found out about our experience with the same scammer

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436413
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and here is a copy of an email one of the members on here recieved from this person

----- Original Message -----
From: Tyler Burgs
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: 1983 Dodge W-350 crew cab

Hello,
I wish to indicate interest in your vehicle for sale at $6200.Get back to me with information on the vehicle's service history,available scanned pictures and also the required payment time frame so that i could make arrangements for payment and pick up.
Regards,
Tyler Burgs
 

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I have received this same scam (yes i am sure its a scam), and here's the kicker... I don't even have a vehicle for sale just running boards..... 
 

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Yeah, it's a scam
They send a counterfiet check for more than the purchase price then you deposit it in your account. What you are suppose to do is then pull the balance and forward it by western union to there supposed shipper. A few days later your bank calls and wants their money back.
Pretty much all centers out of Nigeria.
They alway overnight the bad checks too.
I like to mess with them when I get board. The better half calls it my winter sport.
There's probably about $50,000 in checks hanging on my fridge right now.
Gets peoples attention when they see them.
 

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hmm, if you put that money in an intrest earning account, do you get credited with the intrest it earns while the bank figures out that it is bogus?  what are the scammers going to do when you don't forward on the money?
 

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It's a riot when they don't receive their money.
I got an email threatening to turn me in to the FBI and other law enforcement agencies. They had the names wrong though so I gave them the correct names and telephone numbers to call. I let them know that I was certain they would be very happy to hear from them.
Hmmmm.
Never heard anything else from them.
Go figure.
I just got a scammer email about a set of $600 tires and wheels I had for sale asking my best and final price. I told them $2,500. I got another counterfiet check overnighted by UPS on Thursday for $5,050. Of course I was suppose to deposit it and forward the balance by Western Union to their shipper.
Interest on the deposit???? Hey, there's an idea. I've got thousands of $$$ in those checks. Gotta be worth something. LOL
 

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Hello,
I wish to indicate interest in your vehicle for sale at $6200.Get back to me with information on the vehicle's service history,available scanned pictures and also the required payment time frame so that i could make arrangements for payment and pick up.
Regards,
Tyler Burgs
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"I wish to indicate interest in your vehicle"
"Your vehicle"....... this  is a full coverage term that could include any host of vehicles from a motorcycle to an airplane.
Definite clue to a scam. They are sending out multiple scam leads in a generic fashion. The only thing they took time to copy from your add was the price, and of that I'm surprised.

"Get back to me with information on  **the vehicles** service history. Second red flag here, they again use a generic term.
"Available scanned pictures and also the required payment time frame so that I could make arrangements for payment and pick up"

Third red flag, their trying to control the situation of payment (usually fake cashiers check) and pick up. Nobody buys sight unseen, nobody. If you do, your a boob. The "available scanned pictures" is supposed to alay suspicion and infer earnestness.

fourth red flag is they try to endear themselves as buddies and their trust in you........ Hell they have no clue who and what your like. !!

This reply wreaks of fraud, that is if you can learn to discern all the uses of terms that could be used to cover a host of articles they  propose buying, a generic response as it were with your vehicle entered on their dotted line. The one thing that took them any time at all was to enter your price. that usually covered with another generic type of reply that doesn't name the price but agrees what your asking for your vehicle is fine and agreed upon. Once you have received a couple of these scams you know the drill, you look for vagueness and generic wording and a hurry to have their 'people' come take care of transportation. The is virtually never a deal done in the DMV or a bank where the funds can absolutely be verified or in the presence of anything risky to them as far as possible being captured in the act of Fraud.

Always watch for RED FLAGS.......... one is too many, and more than one is a sure bet your being scammed...............
 

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Ive been there and figured it out. Thanks for posting every thing you said is the truth. Hit the nail on the head
 

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Yeah, it's a scam
They send a counterfiet check for more than the purchase price then you deposit it in your account. What you are suppose to do is then pull the balance and forward it by western union to there supposed shipper. A few days later your bank calls and wants their money back.
Pretty much all centers out of Nigeria.
They alway overnight the bad checks too.
I like to mess with them when I get board. The better half calls it my winter sport.
There's probably about $50,000 in checks hanging on my fridge right now.
Gets peoples attention when they see them.
Yep and no phone number on check, usually a credit union, and a signature that can'[t be read. The first tip off is you deposit the check and send them money back so they can arrange their shipper and pay them. Another email scammer to watch for is the user ID of: DBgibbs. That one sends an email to a parts hunter that reads something like: "I have parts you are requesting. Please send good email to *".
 
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