[MoparMurdoc]

Hey, some of you might know I've got a '79 Ramcharger SE 360 4-speed that I was trying to sell for a while. I got the front fender smashed on night so now noone really wants it, So I've been thinking of fixing it up and driving it for a while, and here's what I was thinking of doing. If this is kinda how the ad read, what do you think I could get for it on here or on e-bay? I don't want to put more money into it and still have noone want to buy it, ya know.
Original 360 w/ 170k (but well maintained) w/ MSD ignition, holley aluminum intake and carb, maybe shorty headers w/ a reletively new exhaust.
New clutch.
Body nearly perfect (all rust fixed, fender fixed, repainted).
Floors rust free and coated in beadliner under the carpet.
33" tires with aluminum wheels.
Good CD player and 4 good speakers.
And this would be in Connecticut where you almost never see a rust free Ramcharger. Tell me what you think.
Note: this isn't the condition of the truck now, so don't get too excited. lol

 

[Evildriver-3]

$500

 

[GroundHawger]

possibly $800

 

[phoenix827]

I think you could get $800 the way it sits, might have to sit on uit a bit though. Get a new fender/grill and we can cover the rot.

 

[Evildriver-3]

Oooopps after checking edmunds used prices i got $520 so i was damned close that's the as is price, after you fix it lmfao it's $734, so you better think about it real good before you spend more than $1000 to fix it.

By the way putting make up on a pig and making it look real good doesn't mean you got a super model, just means you got a good lookin pig.

 

[phoenix827]

By the way putting make up on a pig and making it look real good doesn't mean you got a super model, just means you got a good lookin pig.

Sounds like a good Friday nite in NYC! lol

 

[MoparMurdoc]

Oooopps after checking edmunds used prices i got $520 so i was damned close that's the as is price, after you fix it lmfao it's $734, so you better think about it real good before you spend more than $1000 to fix it.

By the way putting make up on a pig and making it look real good doesn't mean you got a super model, just means you got a good lookin pig.

Well, thats Chris that wants to put bondo all over, If I do it I'm doing it right, welding on new rocker panels and buying a new front fender.
And those prices from edmunds don't seem very realistic. In the northeast noone is gonna be selling a rust free truck for $700. NADA guides tells a different story, and just looking in the bargain news and e-bay. I might just fix the floors, rust, and fender, I'd probably just loose money doing the other stuff.
But, if you can find me a rust free '70s RC for that price, I'll buy it.

 

[Monsta® aka Mudshark]

I'll pay a $801 but you have to deliever it....

J/k

Honestly, I wouldn't pay more than 750

 

[Evildriver-3]

I forgot all about this my best friend bought a 1980 with a 360 and np435 and it has headers, dual exhaust, locking hubs, the part time conversion for the full time, msd, edel intake, holley, alum wheels, a bunch of other stuff and it has rust in the usual places, it was bought for $500 exactly i remember speaking with the owner about the PT conversion.

Just something to think about MM79, oh yeah there isn't a dent or scratch on it.

 

[Evildriver-3]

Don't use Nada, Nada doesn't look at it realistically, Nada looks at everything old as it is a collectible and these aren't collectible.
I'll look up the price again in excellent condition, lol i put 50k for miles the 1st time because i didn't see the 170k well in excellent condition it's worth a whopping $470
I bought my 88 with new driveshaft for $250 (tiny little rust on the pass side 1/4)

Not every vehicle is going to pay better because it is older, remember this isn't a collectible muscle car, and if it was and you added things to it you would lower the price.

These are trucks you and us like, we do it because it makes us happy, this is not something i would play with looking to make a couple of grand when i sell it.

 

[phoenix827]

I think he is just trying to avoid looseing his shirt.

 

[Evildriver-3]

Well then the best bet is to cut your losses now, don't add another $1,000 to make something worth $500

 

[MoparMurdoc]

Don't use Nada, Nada doesn't look at it realistically, Nada looks at everything old as it is a collectible and these aren't collectible.
I'll look up the price again in excellent condition, lol i put 50k for miles the 1st time because i didn't see the 170k well in excellent condition it's worth a whopping $470
I bought my 88 with new driveshaft for $250 (tiny little rust on the pass side 1/4)
Not every vehicle is going to pay better because it is older, remember this isn't a collectible muscle car, and if it was and you added things to it you would lower the price.
These are trucks you and us like, we do it because it makes us happy, this is not something i would play with looking to make a couple of grand when i sell it.

Well, I don't think either NADA or Edmunds look at it realistically. NADA gives it too much "classic" credit, edmunds just subtracts value for each year it gets older. In reality, there are a lot of people who will pay a couple thousand for a nice truck, but they have to be enthusiasts. In my area and on e-bay i've seen trucks go for $3000 with just a cosmetic restoration. Trucks that have been "customized" go for more. Before I smashed the fender I had my RC in the paper for $2000 OBO and I had one guy in NY who was ready to buy but it didn't work out, then I had another guy who was ready to buy for $1800, but then I got in the accident and he lost intrest. Recently I put it on here for $800 and one guy in ohio was ready to have it towed sight unseen, but I took pics of the rust anyways and he changed his mind because it needs a quarter panel, which also repelled another guy who came to see it. So I'm sure fixed up I'd get more, I'm just wondering if I'd break even.
There arn't many nice 70's ramchargers anymore, most are all rusted, so finding a nice one is worth a lot to some people. And to some people its just a 25 year old truck, worth $500. But most often people are getting the message that they can sell their trucks for a lot more, and they do. I paid $1400 for it and people said that was a good deal. I know I coulda done better if I waited and looked longer, but I think the guy you mentioned got a one-in-a-million deal, probably the seller didn't know what he could have gotten.
I know I'm a little too optimistic, but you just seem too pessimistic.

 

[IntenseImages]

hate to tell you this but for the most part martry is not to far off on his guesstimates. my rc when i got it only had one small area of rust on it with a strong running motor and i only paid $750 for it.

if yours had a big block you might be ably to command a bit more but most of the excellent condiditon 4x4's i have seen in that age group go for between $1000-1500.

so even if oyu fixed up all of the body panels and did them right, you still would probaly not break even, and definitely wouldnt if you slapped on a pair of $200-400 shorty headers

eric

 

[Evildriver-3]

I bought and sold more RC's then i care to remember, at 1 time i had 4 RC's sure they can go for more, to a true enthusiast it's not gonna be worth more, i am a true enthusiast have been for more years then you can imagine i only drive and own mopar, i live, breath, race mopar, the guy who isn't me will pay more for it because he doesn't know.

Edmunds is where it's at every vehicle depreciates with age, the older it is the faster and more value it loses.
The others don't go that far back, but for argument sake(KBB and Nada) they do go to 85 and if a 85 in your condition is only $1,000, then why in the hell should a older more used and abused version be worth more?
Also Edmunds KBB and Nada and the 1 i forget they all say the 85 is worth the same $1000

You are in shock and it is understandable but this isn't a rare big horse power optioned muscle car with history in racing, it is a 4x RC used and abused and you want it to be worth a couple grand.
Look at your selling record everyone backed out, none of them even said they'll take it for free after whatever reason they had or after they seen pictures.
Your RC is over 10 years old, 10 years is a standard of useful life in a vehicle your's ran out it needs everything redone whether you think so or not that is how it is, if you find someone to buy it for more count your blessings.

Headers aren't a monetary upgrade, msd isn't either, what is a monetary upgrade is a brand new motor built to todays standards, a bigger motor, fuel injection, 5 speed trans where there was a 3 speed or 4 speed, but these are all fractional upgrades, so if you build a $4k motor you just brought your $500 RC up to about $1500/2000, so now maybe you see what your dealing with and how you upgrade to get more money and in the real world lose more.
A better example of fractional upgrades, most race cars have thousands apon thousands in them and people sell them for between $20k and $10k, those cars are all upgraded there is nothing not upgraded but it only sells for 20 to 10k.

No one wants to know there stuff is worth $500, it's ruff but that's the way it is.

The guy i mentioned who is my best friend also lives and breathes mopar, the guy who was selling it tried that approach you brought up and i quickly explained we weren't here to look at a numbers matching AAR cuda, we were here to look at a RC, afectionately to him and us a nice piece and Mopar made, but in the real world it isn't getting any history and value and truthfully it is a station wagon built on a 2 door platform with a 4x option and removeable top option, i then told him nothing has been rebuilt, it is 20 years old, it is 10 years over due it's retirement for all the mechanical wear, a junkyard will charge you to pick it up, and thankyou for driving it in, we have $500

 

[MoparMurdoc]

I didn't buy this truck a year ago to make money, I had plans to use it offroad but plans change. I guess I didn't title this post right, I don't really care what its worth, I just wanted to know whats the most I could expect to get. I'll probably just fix the floor, fender, and rockers and see what I can get for it.

 

[Evildriver-3]

I didn't say you did get into this because you were looking to make money, you misread it.

You had it on ebay and nothing, you had a 3 people back out 1 at $2k 1 at $1800 and another at $800 the 2 higher people never came back when it was at $800 all im saying is that we are all in the $500 to $700 ball park.

Fixing it and putting more money into it to get $500 or $700 isn't a good move, you may make it look worse and not even get $500, leave it alone and see what you get, another CT member has been selling his Big block RC for alot longer than you and he is down to parting it out now.
Put it on e bay again without the over value reserve and a $500 dollar starting bid and see what happens.

 

[phoenix827]

So you don't think a few hours bondo work and a new fender would bump it to $1000?

 

[Evildriver-3]

Nope all your doing is legitimately making it worth the $700 value it is worth, so spending another $300 to make $500 $700 is insane, the muscle car guy's do it all the time and the collector car guys too, when you see those cars going for 30K and 100K they all got way more than 30k and 100k in them.

Bondo doesn't add value, to make it worth more you would need to upgrade the truck and use nos body panels and paint the entire truck with a very good paint job, but then again this is all fractional value so after you spend $15k to make a $700 truck worth $4k and waiting for years for someone to come and buy it, is it worth it? I will go thru all of this and more next time we all meet.

 

[macario]

Listen up. You won't ever get back what you put into it so let's get that squared away right now. As you described it I think you can get 1K, and if you wait long enough maybe more if you run across some kid with more than 1K burning a hole in his pocket. I'd sell it as is unless you just want to do the work but as I said don't expect to get your bucks back on the deal.