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They used the "Shorty/ Motorhome" 727 in 2 WD trucks?
I didn't realize that.
Or are you referring to manual trans?
I'm thinking it was used on all the 2wd club cab long beds, and all 2wd crew cabs. I do not have pics of the tranny I pulled out of my clubcab project, so I cannot confirm what it was.
 

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Sorry, I was talking about the NP435.
I could never understand why they would need to put a shorty 727 in a motorhome. Now in my truck.. yes.
 

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I could never understand why they would need to put a shorty 727 in a motorhome. Now in my truck.. yes.
Doesn't the shorty feature a bolt-on yoke? Maybe a parking brake variant also?

I have to double-check mine.... '89 D250 std cab cummins. Its def a shorty 727; 2-piece shaft.
 

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Doesn't the shorty feature a bolt-on yoke? Maybe a parking brake variant also?

I have to double-check mine.... '89 D250 std cab cummins. Its def a shorty 727; 2-piece shaft.
Yes. The bolt on yoke is probably the reason why.
And in my short bed W-100, it was needed because...it's short! ☺
 

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Yes. The bolt on yoke is probably the reason why.
And in my short bed W-100, it was needed because...it's short! ☺
But a shortbed 2wd gets the long tailshaft.

The reason is the fixed, vs slip yoke, as mentioned.
 

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But a shortbed 2wd gets the long tailshaft.

The reason is the fixed, vs slip yoke, as mentioned.
Well, in my truck with the divorced 205... it's a short driveshaft to the transfer case. AND a short driveshaft to the rear end.
 

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I wonder if anyone can help?
I've sourced a cross member which seems to be from a manual stick trans, anyone here able to identify this one?
I like to know if it's from a 435 with a divorced 205 from '72 or'73 w-200?
@ Elwenil,or Jungle? maybe there's a drawing somewhere in the books?
 

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I've sourced a cross member which seems to be from a manual stick trans, anyone here able to identify this one?
I like to know if it's from a 435 with a divorced 205 from '72 or'73 w-200?
I have a '75 NP435 (D300) crossmember to compare with if needed.
 

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Ooops, sorry guys, only now see that I didn't add a photo.
@ U2slow, yes please.


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thats not a 205 in the pix with the crossmember ya know .... ;)
 

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I know, for me it's the cross member which is important, if it's one who goes with the 435-divorced 205 combo???
 

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That crossmember is from a typical mated 4WD, auto or manual. The divorced 4 speed should use a 2WD type mount. Look at the tail of the transmission, it will only have a small pad to use this type of mount:


Even the ad on Ebay says this mount is for a '74 and earlier W200.


It will use a crossmember exactly like this one:

 
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My '75 D300's crossmember looks like Elwenil's pic.
 
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Wouldn't any 2wd (of that era) crossmember work? I have switched from 727 to 435 (both divorced) & don't recall switching, or even moving, that crossmember. But it was 15 years ago so I may be mistaken.

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727 and NP435 2WD crossmembers are the same as a divorced NP435/727 4WD. That is what I have been saying from the beginning, the divorced setup uses and same NP435 and crossmember as a D100/D200, etc. All they did was add a front axle and a transfer case hanging behind the same transmission, mounted to the same crossmember as a 2WD.

I highly recommend using the stock crossmembers for a divorced setup. If you get the angles off, it will vibrate the truck like nothing you have ever seen.
 
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Yep, I know.
some know what they do, have a look at lowlands dodge...
 

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727 and NP435 2WD crossmembers are the same as a divorced NP435/727 4WD. That is what I have been saying from the beginning, the divorced setup uses and same NP435 and crossmember as a D100/D200, etc. All they did was add a front axle and a transfer case hanging behind the same transmission( BY ITS OWN CROSSMEMBER), mounted to the same crossmember as a 2WD.

I highly recommend using the stock crossmembers for a divorced setup. If you get the angles off, it will vibrate the truck like nothing you have ever seen.
Just to clarify, with the divorced transfer, you need the 2wd trans & 2wd crossmember for the tranny, and the divorced transfer, and the crossmember to hold it in place. Along with all the necessary drive shafts.
 

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Well, I got around to take some photo's to clarify things, though I wasn't aware from the mix and match of parts Chrysler used to get things going...
I have a photo from the 435, and to me it seems that Elwenil has a very thorough knowledge (more than I already was aware of :)) and further I have a photo from the 205 which seems to need it's own cross member as well?? Am I right?
Where the yellow flashes are are the mounting points?

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