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I am using a 2002 E Machine with XP that was trailing edge when I bought it but it works ok for surfing, photo storage and e-mail.  A couple of years ago I replaced the RAM with 2g memory.

Recently it started to shut off with no warning.

I did a Malwarebytes long scan, took over 5 hours but it stayed on for the entire time, found a few PUP files and deleted them.

Logged onto Facebook and about 30 minutes later it shut off. Restarted it and kept only one window open and it shut off after a few minutes.

It has stayed on for this message though, maybe it hates FB!

I blew the dust out, not too much, I cleaned it not too long ago.  Both fans are running.

I'm thinking it might be the hard drive because it worked during the scan but shut off when under load.

I can get a new hard drive pretty cheap but then I need a new OS and will have to copy all the stuff over.

Any ideas?

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Bill


 

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First thought is dying power supply.
 

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My first thought would be overheating.  Check and make sure the heatsink is still secure and dust free.
 

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Elwenil said:
My first thought would be overheating. Check and make sure the heatsink is still secure and dust free.
I would've thought that too but he says the fans are working and everything is blown out. Let's see how it goes.
 

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I considered over heating also, but one side is off, dust has been blown out and the fans are running.

It stayed on for RCC as I typed the first post, it shut off for FB and later for another forum.

I'm using a tablet right now.

Thanks for your responses.


 

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The fans can still work and the processor will still overheat if one of the clips on the heatsink has let go and the heatsink loses contact with the processor.  Pretty common problem with the later Pentium processors.  I've had to replace the plastic base twice on this old PC.
 

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i am going with over heating. there is a paste in between processors and video cards and their heatsinks. that paste goes bad over time. especially if its been over heated a few times. i've had 2 laptops die this way. also, the solder used on some mother boards (pentiums especially) start to crack over time and lose the connection to the mother board. this is also common on old xbox 360's. i say you download a program that shows the heat of the CPU's and GPU's. i use a program called realtempGT. i am unsure if it can be used with xp or not.
 

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Thanks guys, I'll find something that measures the temperature.

I'm wondering why it seems like I can stay on RCC all day without a problem then hit a high graphics forum like FB and it shuts down.

Over heating the cpu by overworking the cpu?

Hope the wife gets a job soon so I can upgrade my computer!!



 

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could be the GPU (graphics processor unit) does the screen flicker or do you get any weird coloring or lines when it shuts down?
 

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If the heatsink has come loose, you won't be able to measure the temp in the case.  It's the processor that's overheating and it can happen in a matter of seconds or longer depending on the demand on it.  It's the processor that overheats and it will shut down the computer immediately to prevent damage.  Just reach in and try and wiggle the heatsink and fan assembly on the processor, if it moves, it will have to be fixed, if not, the problem is elsewhere.
 

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could be the GPU (graphics processor unit) does the screen flicker or do you get any weird coloring or lines when it shuts down?
No nothing, the processor starts making noise as the demand increases and then just shuts off.
 

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Elwenil said:
If the heatsink has come loose, you won't be able to measure the temp in the case. It's the processor that's overheating and it can happen in a matter of seconds or longer depending on the demand on it. It's the processor that overheats and it will shut down the computer immediately to prevent damage. Just reach in and try and wiggle the heatsink and fan assembly on the processor, if it moves, it will have to be fixed, if not, the problem is elsewhere.
Those are the symptoms.

I'll try this and I'll let you know.

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Yep.
 

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how do the capacitors look. sounds like some might be failing. as far as the hard drive/operating system goes there software that you can use to copy the operating system and all your files to the new hard drive. i know it was called Ghost and nortons made it. the copy i use to use was on 3 1/2" floppy. if your computer is using a SATA drive i think you have to change some settings but i don't remember the exact details around it.
 

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Thanks, I think I've narrowed it down to either the CPU thingy or the power supply.

I'm about ready to start swapping parts with the wife's spare computer to see what fails.

Need to clean up the memory also, the C drive is about filled, not sure how that happened.


 

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Need to clean up the memory also, the C drive is about filled, not sure how that happened.
Too much porn.
 

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Need to clean up the memory also, the C drive is about filled, not sure how that happened.
Ya that will cause problems. Try deleting a bunch of stuff you don't need and see if that helps. If it starts working, I'd defrag.
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i don't think a full c drive would cause a computer to shut off but it would cause it to run slower and work harder. with a computer that is about nearly 12 years old i don't think the hard drive in it would be that big.
 

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I had a friend that had a similar problem problem. He cleaned up some memory and it was fixed. Its worth a shot anyway.

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