[Pat88ramcharger]

I was actually suprised to not see this already posted.

I decided on the borgeson steering shaft because I had heard many good things about them form many of the members of this site. I am not the slightest bit disapointed. the steering became nice and firm, there is no slop.

I highly recommend one, the install is nice and easy, just soak the push pin overnight.

the borgeson shaft is available at either:
http://www.borgeson.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BUOS&Product_Code=DFS9&Category_Code=FSDT

or

www.summitracing.com
do a search for part # brg-940

really made a very positive difference on my RC

Pat

 

[TX_twink]

While your at it, replace the rag joint too. It's less than $20.

 

[sloppy_steering]

Did you replace your steering gear, and pump too?

 

[Pat88ramcharger]

When i did the work on my truck, I also replaced the steering gear, the tie rod ends, drag link, ball joints, and rag joint, (few other things too, shocks, brakes, tires)

but I still do notice a difference with the borg shaft. on the highway it is pinpoint steering

Pat

 

[sloppy_steering]

Thanks Pat I just ordered the Borgeson and a bunch of other front end parts to replace the worn ones I've got. The shaft is cheaper through summit for those who want to know. only by about 10 bucks but they have free shipping at least to NJ.

 

[Pat88ramcharger]

I just read through the summit page and the borg pages and it doesnt mention anything about drive so i would imagine the shaft would also work on 2 wheel as well as 4 wheel.

Good luck

Pat

 

[sloppy_steering]

I just painted the new shaft and but a big shock boot over the universal to protect it from road and off road grim. It looks cool and performs great.

 

[sloppy_steering]

The Borgeson just saved the life of some soccer mom and her minivan yesterday. I was cruisin about 45 mph down a pretty busy road when a white minivan goin the opposite way decides to make a left about 10 yards in front of me. I cut the wheel hard right and made it around the mini van but was then headin toward the Welcome to Raritan sign on the right side of the road. Cut it hard to the left and kicked the rear end around into the snow just missing the signs and slidding the whole way. Made a quick correction back to the pavement and on I went. Don't think I droped below 35 mph during the entire mess. I couldn't have done that without the quick and light response of the borgeson.

 

[glowplug47]

The Borgeson just saved the life of some soccer mom and her minivan yesterday. I was cruisin about 45 mph down a pretty busy road when a white minivan goin the opposite way decides to make a left about 10 yards in front of me. I cut the wheel hard right and made it around the mini van but was then headin toward the Welcome to Raritan sign on the right side of the road. Cut it hard to the left and kicked the rear end around into the snow just missing the signs and slidding the whole way. Made a quick correction back to the pavement and on I went. Don't think I droped below 35 mph during the entire mess. I couldn't have done that without the quick and light response of the borgeson.

How do you determine it is the shaft? Just bought my first RC (87)and the steering is terrible. Front end seems to be in excellant condition. This thing will hold a sweeping turn at highway speeds with no hands. Could be helpful at times but not very often. If I need the shaft, how long does it take to R&R with reasonable ability? Thanks

 

[Pat88ramcharger]

If you are just doing the shaft, then the R&R should only take about 1/2 a day.

Check out this how to:

http://ramchargercentral.com/howto/borgesoninstall.shtml

Pat

 

[glowplug47]

If you are just doing the shaft, then the R&R should only take about 1/2 a day.

Check out this how to:

http://ramchargercentral.com/howto/borgesoninstall.shtml

Pat

Thanks for the reply. Does Borgenson sell the rag joint also or is that a dealer item?
Also, what is the web site for Summit?
Thanks for the help
Dick

 

[Pat88ramcharger]

borg does sell a rag joint

www.summitracing.com

Pat

 

[glowplug47]

borg does sell a rag joint

www.summitracing.com

Pat

Thanks, I ordered both this morning.
Dick

 

[Sam Simpson]

2wd and 4wd have different mounting locations for the gear box. The gear box is the same between the two, just mounted in different postitions.

When you do a crossover steering conversion, you move the gear box to the 2wd position, which is higher on the frame which make the shaft shorter.

I had a borgeson on an 80 trialduster. Put it on an 88 RC, but it was too long, so I cut it down. Went to put it on my 84 RC, but it was too short. I did the crossover steering conversion on the 84, and now the shaft fits perfect.

So I am not sure if the later model RC's came with the box already mounted in the 2x position or not, but it seems to be that way, since my 88 needed a short shaft that works exaclty the same when the box is mounted in the 2x position on my 84.

Best thing to do is give them your measurements from box to rag joint, or just measure your existing steering shaft end to end.

 

[glowplug47]

2wd and 4wd have different mounting locations for the gear box. The gear box is the same between the two, just mounted in different postitions.

When you do a crossover steering conversion, you move the gear box to the 2wd position, which is higher on the frame which make the shaft shorter.

I had a borgeson on an 80 trialduster. Put it on an 88 RC, but it was too long, so I cut it down. Went to put it on my 84 RC, but it was too short. I did the crossover steering conversion on the 84, and now the shaft fits perfect.

So I am not sure if the later model RC's came with the box already mounted in the 2x position or not, but it seems to be that way, since my 88 needed a short shaft that works exaclty the same when the box is mounted in the 2x position on my 84.

Best thing to do is give them your measurements from box to rag joint, or just measure your existing steering shaft end to end.

Thanks

 

[Pat88ramcharger]

Actually the borg shaft i got is telescoping....

it should work on both applications, and will also fit with body lifted trucks..

Pat

 

[glowplug47]

Wish the one I received today was telescoping. Its about 3 inches to short. It has the right part # on it.
The dissasembly was a piece of cake. Took it apart this afternoon and about the time I was done with removal the UPS truck pulled up. What timing! Too bad it won't fit.
Dick

 

[Sam Simpson]

The one I have doesn't telescope either. You must of gotten the 2wd version.

 

[Ramtuff]

Mine is telescoping too, and I know I told the sales rep I had a 4X4.


Ian

 

[glowplug47]

Well, just call me stupid. I called Borgenson this morning and the guy nicely informed me that the unit was telescoping. Darned if it wasn't. 6 inches or so. The part went on flawlessly with instructions provided here on this site. Thanks to all who took the time to respond.
Dick