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Well I finally got me a crew cab ;D

Its an old Burlington Northern Railroad truck. In their Green. Cascade Green? Reminds me of Sassy Grass green. I think I will have to keep it this color. First time the paint was the first thing decided. LOL

Its gonna be a slow project but figured I would start a thread since Crew Cabs do have a following.

Any old time rail fans that know what the paint code would be or how to get it matched?

I will also ask my stupid questions here as well. :-X

Plans, convert to 4x4 with plans on using a 88-98 Ford front end for the driver side drop, to make romm for a way down the line of a cummins swap. Bed is kinda trashed so either find another or flat bed it. Not sure yet. Looking at about a 4" lift overall.

When is crossover steering needed? Over 4". Can it be used with under a 4" lift? Since the truck is already 2wd the steering box is properly located already. :) Would I have to goto a 5" to make the crossover steering work? Given the length of the truck, thinking a divorced xfer case if its worth it. Mainly to move it back to make both driveshafts the same length. Havent measured yet so not sure if my idea would make for a stupidly long front driveshaft? Non divorced xfer cases stronger? Strength an durability is more important. So looking at a 2nd gen diesel xfer case. nv241D iirc. I dont think those ever came divorced. hmmm might have answered my own question.

Looking at a 35" tire but given the size of the truck maybe 37". Size meaning length. Plan on copying "Judge" and lengthening the front fender opening. Keep the pics up Eric! Gonna need to refer to them. ;D Gotta research to see what the consesus is to fit 37" tires.

Its an original 4bbl truck. Might swap to Magnum with Megasquirt but no need yet. Seems to run fine. Was overheated but no odd engine noises. The back of the exhaust manifold has a hole in it. Should be where the air injection should go, maybe a plug blew out? I have a set of headers. She smokes bad from a valve cover leak. Guy said I can fix some of the things at his place. No fluids seem to be mixed either. So hopefully no blown head gasket.

What size gas tanks were available in Crews?

Looks to be a D60 under there. Didnt check the rear for a tag. Owner says its geared low too. Anything steeper then 4.10 available back then?

They wrecked the driver side door and the latches wont change over. I remember reading there was a latch change but can not remember when and what was changed? :-X

Ok some pics I took.







I like the Green!!





 

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murfman said:
Why not just put a dodge d60 under it and leave it passenger drop? Find a W250/350 donor truck and it would be pretty straight forward
Exhaust clearance on a diesel. Thinking down the road. Also fords are more plentiful up here. Already found front and rear for 1200. Can't get them yet. Even found a 3/4 diesel ford for about 2200. Dodges, not so much.
 

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look at some of the builds that mad max has done, almost all diesel conversions, with factory axle and transfer case options, plenty of room to run your 4" diesel exhaust, he even makes a 4" down pipe that clears these rigs with no modifications. he would be the guy to talk to.
 

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Did a little more research and no I see the spring pads are different. I swore the ford d60 was a bolt in basically. Looks like it stays all dodge :). After that I did skim through some builds and I believe it was with twins and 5" is where it got tight. However I might not go diesel after all.

What xfer cases were the diesel/heavy duty ones? This Friday going to go see the truck again. Start fixing leaks.
It does have a hole in the back of each exhaust manifold. Seems like the holes for an air aspirator tube. Anyone know if a pipe plug would screw in or do I have to pull the manifolds to see it up. If so thinking some washers and jb weld :( 

Did the door latches switch some time in the mid 80's?  They wreck the driver front door and got another. Latch won't work and they haven't fixed it yet so the door has no latch.
 

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yes the striker and latch did change, I think in 85 when the thinner doors were introduced, the tubes in the back of the manifold are the AIR ports, and would work in conjunction with the rest of the smog equipment, on some there is a plug on the front side of the manifold, same plug should work, a block off plate could also be made (sometimes purchased if they are still on the shelf) below the rear hole is a bolt hole, that bolt hole can be used to hold a block off plate in place.

just remember, if you do headers, you will need to plug the AIR holes in the heads, as most headers do not have provisions for these.
 

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Green..... Me likey!
 

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That's strange about the gearing, I did see a cab/chassis truck that was being parted out with 4.88's it's hard to tell.
 

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Dam. I forgot about the ports in the exh manifold. Will have to see when I pull them. I don't remember if it had provisions for the air pump.

I like the color too. Need to see if I can find a paint code. If not maybe Sassy Grass Green?  Nothing like a high impact painted crew cab. :)
 

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For the X over, Anything over 2" lift & it should fit. It will NOT work on a stock height!!
Jim

Is that the Burlington Vt RR you got it from?
No its from the Northwest. Washington, Oregon area. I just moved up here in 2010 so I dont know the history of the RR.

I will probably PM you questions again, since I am converting to 4wd, and so far your pieces seem to make it the easiest way.

So far so reading on the RR from Wikipedia Burlington RR
 

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Ok I got a deal on a Cummins A518/np205.  Picking it up in July.

Read a V10 shares the Cummins bellhousing pattern. If so and a V10 will bolt up to the tranny, what is needed for it to work behind a V10, Off hand all I can think of is the governor, a different torque converter and not sure if the flexplate will work or not.

 

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I'd say the V-10 probably needs it's computer at least. I'm not 100% on the interchangeability between the V-10 and Cummins. Btw, I plan on doing a Ford HP60 front in mine. Already have my T-case. It is a divorced unit. But then again, NOTHING in my build is gonna just bolt together either....  :p
 

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I'd say the V-10 probably needs it's computer at least. I'm not 100% on the interchangeability between the V-10 and Cummins. Btw, I plan on doing a Ford HP60 front in mine. Already have my T-case. It is a divorced unit. But then again, NOTHING in my build is gonna just bolt together either.... :p
I have the computer thing already planned out Using a megasquirt efi.

What Ford axle are you going to use? I was looking at them but the spring perches do line up. Kinda looking for more bolt in though. Interested in how you are gonna build yours. Do share when you do.
 

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Well, was first thinking about a 4 link with panhard, but won't be doing any wheeling that serious. Decided I will probably have a friend fab up some brackets that mount on the spring pads with ubolts just like the leafs originally did. Then, I will build a radius arm that has an adjustment on the top axle links for caster correction. The slight binding characteristics usually mean better road manners. Will go with barrel style bushings for a smooth ride. Dunno if I will choose coils or coilovers. Coils are cheaper, but require more room than coilovers. Coilovers are easy to mess with spring rate and get a cushier ride. Leafs are doable, I would just have to fab the spring mounts appropriately, but am kinda wanting to go radius arm. Reading lots of info on it right now. My head hurts  {sick}
 

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lol I know how you feel. I was planning on a 4wd conversion on my 01 cummins. 5 link like the factory setup. Big thing was the springs. Decided on coilovers as well. Spent days on pirate. ugh. I still might do the 01. However the 85 will be easier and if this one goes good I might take on the more involved 01 swap.

Tomorrow I should get more pix of the truck as well as finish paying it off.  ;D Hopefully my 518/205 lineup then all that is left is a D60 front. I will probably find like 5 of them, of course only when I dont have money. I need to time it so that I find one and have the funds stashed. LOL
 

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Yep. That is life. Been on pirate as well reading, reading, reading about coilovers.  :p
 

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Paid it off today. Brought fluids. Tranny low. Water low. Added water let it run like 15 min. No issues. Good oil pressure. Cooling system built pressure. He said it overheated while idling so I think the clutch fan is going out. Tried the power steering put fluid and started working however sprayed fluid out the front of the gear box.

 
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