[87_power_ram]

on my 84 w100 i ordered a turn signal switch to fix the turn signals,  so my question is does the horn wire run through the signal switch as well? could the turn switch be the cause of the horn problem also?  because the horn will blow anytime you bump the steering wheel or column/shift the gear shifter...btw it has an aftermarket wheel on it and the button cap/contact ring arent the issue

 

[712edf]

I may be wrong, but I think on Dodges the horn button (when pressed) completes the GROUND leg of the circuit. If it's blowing due to touching of the shifter/wheel, it due to a short (to ground).

Bucky

 

[dodge82273]

yup it is a ground wire , if it touches any ground horn should blow .

 

[87_power_ram]

i get all that, what i’m getting at is wether the wire wire for the horn runs through the turn signal switch in the steering column or is there there a clock spring of sorts in the column or what?  because it acts like a broken clock spring (horn blowing and a sound coming from the steering column as you turn the wheel...but i’ll pull the wheel either tonight or tomorrow and check

 

[grouch]

i get all that, what i'm getting at is wether the wire wire for the horn runs through the turn signal switch in the steering column or is there there a clock spring of sorts in the column or what? because it acts like a broken clock spring (horn blowing and a sound coming from the steering column as you turn the wheel...but i'll pull the wheel either tonight or tomorrow and check

It's been a long time since I worked on the wires in a steering column on these. I'm pretty sure the signal wires are separate from the horn wire. The horn wire goes to a connection under the steering wheel. The turn signal wires slide down the column to a connector at the lower part of the column.

 

[dodge82273]

IIRC the horn wire is black/red , or LT gray . it is part of the horseshoe shaped connector on the lower column . While its not part of the turn signal switch operation its contact brush IS held in place by the same plastic . yes there is a contact on the steering wheel , and a "brush" that rides on it .  the fact that it could be pinched , and grounding ANYWHERE besides where it should means you have to check carefully and find where its "shorting" to ground .

 

[DODGEBOYS]

btw it has an aftermarket wheel on it and the button cap/contact ring arent the issue

you say its Not the problem and l say it IS = installed wrong or alignment

 

[87_power_ram]

ok so if you turn the wheel back and forth the horn relay clicks, and the relay is hot to the touch (truck hasn’t been touched in almost 24hrs) and the steering column makes a jingle/rattle sound also while turning the wheel, it has some brand of aftermarket wheel and some brand of cheap dixie horns mounted under the hood

 

[87_power_ram]

found the problem i think, anybody have any suggestions on the best way to fix it? and maybe the proper name for that part?

 

[ToxicDoc]

found the problem i think, anybody have any suggestions on the best way to fix it? and maybe the proper name for that part?

Maybe if you described what you actually found is wrong... Generally speaking any solution here will involve taking the horn button or steering wheel off. Start there.

 

[87_power_ram]

sorry picture was supposed to be with that post

 

[dodge82273]

you need to REmove the wheel adapter , under it should be a "brush" contact . a Y shape "puller" , 3 bolts into adapter , 1 big push bolt onto steering shaft . aftermarket "stuff" ( being "nice" ) problem .

 

[87_power_ram]

didn’t have the correct bolts to pull of the adapter last night....but i got it pulled off tonight and apparently that disc under the adapter had came unglued which in turn broke the wire and was allowing the “disc” to touch the contacts on the turn signal/hazard assembly when turning the wheel and the screw for the turn signal lever completely loose and was allowing it to ground and click the horn lever ....tightened up the screw and ordered a new installation/horn kit for the wheel and it’ll be here Tuesday

 

[dodge82273]

good job , thanks for the follow up . sometimes aftermarket stuff is a problem .